{"id":10863,"date":"2020-12-12T00:21:37","date_gmt":"2020-12-12T00:21:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/dream-s-minecraft-runs-deemed-illegitimate-following-investigation-by-java-speedrunning-team"},"modified":"2024-07-19T07:06:05","modified_gmt":"2024-07-19T07:06:05","slug":"dream-s-minecraft-runs-deemed-illegitimate-following-investigation-by-java-speedrunning-team","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/dream-s-minecraft-runs-deemed-illegitimate-following-investigation-by-java-speedrunning-team","title":{"rendered":"Dream\u2019s Minecraft runs deemed \u201cillegitimate\u201d following investigation by Speedrunning team"},"content":{"rendered":"<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Update: <\/strong>Dream has come out to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/minecraft\/dream-refutes-minecraft-speedruning-cheating-allegations-i-provided-everything-the-mods-ever-asked-for\">refute the allegations<\/a> claiming he &#8220;did everything the mods asked for,&#8221; during their investigation.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Original story:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">One of Minecraft&#8217;s most popular content creators and speedrunners Clay aka &#8220;Dream&#8221; has had his speed run deemed &#8220;illegitimate&#8221; by the Java Speedrunning mod team.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/minecraft\/dream-hires-harvard-astrophysicist-to-disprove-minecraft-cheating-accusations\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dream hires Harvard astrophysicist to disprove Minecraft cheating accusations<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The findings, published on the 11th December, took the form of a <a href=\"https:\/\/mcspeedrun.com\/dream.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lengthy analysis paper<\/a> that looked at six consecutive speedrun&#8217;s completed by Dream on-stream in October 2020 and found that his &#8220;drop rates are substantially greater than those of other top-level RSG runners&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Later in the day, a 14-minute video was posted to YouTube by one of the moderators, Geosquare, showcasing evidence and data analysis, in order to &ldquo;debunk any misinformation,&#8221; and make the paper&#8217;s findings more &#8220;accessible&#8221;.<\/p>\n<div style=\"left: 0px; width: 100%; height: 0px; position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%; max-width: 600px;\" data-ephox-embed-iri=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=-MYw9LcLCb4&amp;ab_channel=Geosquare\"><iframe style=\"border: 0; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-MYw9LcLCb4?rel=0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" srcdoc=\"&lt;style&gt;*{padding:0;margin:0;overflow:hidden}html,body{height:100%}img,span{position:absolute;width:100%;top:0;bottom:0;margin:auto}span{height:1.5em;text-align:center;font:48px\/1.5 sans-serif;color:white;text-shadow:0 0 0.5em black}&lt;\/style&gt;&lt;a href=https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-MYw9LcLCb4?autoplay=1&gt;&lt;img src=https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/-MYw9LcLCb4\/hqdefault.jpg alt='YouTube video thumbnail'&gt;&lt;span&gt;&#9654;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/a&gt;\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Allegedly, Dream&rsquo;s runs have been altered to his benefit using mods or data packs which are undetectable <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/dreamwastaken\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">during his live streams<\/a>. He also failed to provide Mod Folders as he states he &ldquo;deletes the contents pretty regularly.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Dream responded almost immediately through his personal Twitter account, discrediting and refuting the investigation&rsquo;s conclusion.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">My 1.16 run was just rejected after research due to it being &#8220;too unlikely to verify&#8221;. A video was made by a head mod and Youtuber Geosquare, using my name and clickbaiting &#8220;Cheating Speedrunning&#8221; in order to get easy views. Definitely a response soon. Total BS!<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; dream (@dreamwastaken2) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dreamwastaken2\/status\/1337523741757239299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 11, 2020<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Currently have multiple moderators messaging me that they believe that the verdict was bias, and that they might quit the mod team. What kind of &#8220;investigation&#8221; was this?<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; dream (@dreamwastaken2) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dreamwastaken2\/status\/1337523885231792131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 11, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Thank you for the totally unbiased, 2 month, 29 page &#8220;investigation&#8221; into whether a 16th place run had &#8220;too good luck&#8221;, that was then made into a clickbait Youtube video by a head moderator (what a shocker)<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; dream (@dreamwastaken2) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dreamwastaken2\/status\/1337531631972855815?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 11, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The paper&rsquo;s main focus is on Dream&rsquo;s drop rates for Blaze Rods and Ender Pearls. This fact was brought forward by MinecrAvenger, who posted a tweet on 16th October where he tracked Dream&rsquo;s trades with Piglins in six different streams and recorded the time stamps for the drops.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">That data caught the eye of the Minecraft Java Speedrunning mods, who later reviewed the footage of the streams which spit out the following numbers.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Dream had traded 262 gold ingots, 42 of which came back as Ender Pearls. The official drop rate for Piglin trades is 20\/423 or ~4.73%, which puts Dream&rsquo;s statistical odds at 30 Ender Pearl drops higher than the code statistic of 12\/262.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-cf.ginx.tv\/imgcdn\/XAEZ99MxzavyDylvQZdoev8cxeMZHRPaaKGC5e3O3aU\/rs:fill:0:0:1\/g:ce\/aHR0cHM6Ly9saDMuZ29vZ2xldXNlcmNvbnRlbnQuY29tL3p3X1Fia05UMEpfNThWTTB4cHBKbzloaWo4Q2lIUERGS2o2ZEl3eEs1SG4xeHB0NkdFV2hhOXpsbDE5aEFUb2F6b3RLR2pOUWY5RVRyZDNTMWo4enh0ZUZYbjkwcFNFanV2c0x6SkNOSUR0TGtiQUwtWEZCNWw0SGhyRnBmWHNUUGIwUktONmU\" alt=\"minecravenger tweet dream drops\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" loading=\"lazy\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">(Picture: Geosquare)<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The video then follows Dream&rsquo;s luck compared to other runners and takes Illumina as an example. Analyzing five Illumina&rsquo;s streams, the numbers came back as 20 pearls per 323 trades.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">After some fancy math, better explained in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=-MYw9LcLCb4&amp;ab_channel=Geosquare\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Geosquare&rsquo;s video<\/a>, the chances of getting 20 Pearls in 323 trades is about 9%.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Fairly lucky, but nothing compared to Dream&rsquo;s ratio, as data analysis throws a whopping 0.000000000565% chance. For an easier read, Dream&rsquo;s drops happen 1 in 177,000,000,000. That&rsquo;s billions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/minecraft\/ray-tracing-officially-added-to-minecraft-15-rtx-worlds-now-included-ingame\">Ray Tracing officially added to Minecraft, 15 RTX Worlds now included in-game<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">A graph analyzing other top runners&rsquo; probability put Dream&rsquo;s rates even more in perspective, as you can see his line soars above the rest.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-cf.ginx.tv\/imgcdn\/RDQr7B7Ux7zHQWDHwHgF6varl_Y4TMPZqLXGKRYAt9E\/rs:fill:0:0:1\/g:ce\/aHR0cHM6Ly9saDQuZ29vZ2xldXNlcmNvbnRlbnQuY29tL2FjbDM1ZXdtOFRHZ0Vpb3NuUjVLZUVuaXZFc3J4Z01oYkVuSFZpcVh0LXR1Z183VEJpOHhRMFlsZnJSYXBFUm9BV1VfZUJTQ1NNXzRIZHdSTE1sTjN3ZURuZV9QRDlWbHFMU2VEcHhDbFhVOFEwMzN4X2I3Z3dKQS1yelA2NlVXV3lzMGZkWmc\" alt=\"dream cheats chart drops other streamers\" width=\"600\" height=\"435\" loading=\"lazy\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\">(Picture: mcspeedrun)<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Dream believes he is being unfairly targeted and claims the data in the investigation is &ldquo;biased&rdquo;, Geosquare&#8217;s video provides all the collated evidence that made the moderators of the Minecraft speedrunning community to conclude that Dream&rsquo;s runs are &ldquo;illegitimate&rdquo;.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">&ldquo;The only sensible conclusion that can be drawn after this analysis is that Dream&rsquo;s game was modified in order to manipulate the pearl barter and rod drop rates&rdquo;, the paper reads.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">The video has accumulated close to 2,000 dislikes since its release.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li dir=\"ltr\"><strong>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/minecraft\/the-seed-of-minecraft-s-title-screen-background-world-has-finally-been-discovered\">The seed of Minecraft&#8217;s title screen world has finally been discovered<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">After the evidence came to light Dream&#8217;s runs were removed from the speedrun.com Minecraft leaderboard.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update: Dream has come out to refute the allegations claiming he &#8220;did everything the mods asked for,&#8221; during their investigation. Original story: One of Minecraft&#8217;s&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10537,"featured_media":10864,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10863","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-minecraft","genre-platform","content_type-news"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Dream\u2019s Minecraft runs deemed \u201cillegitimate\u201d following investigation by Speedrunning team - GINX TV<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10863\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Dream\u2019s Minecraft runs deemed \u201cillegitimate\u201d following investigation by Speedrunning team - GINX TV\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Update: Dream has come out to refute the allegations claiming he &#8220;did everything the mods asked for,&#8221; during their investigation. 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