{"id":7186,"date":"2020-08-17T02:58:35","date_gmt":"2020-08-17T02:58:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/dota-2-legend-loda-takes-swipe-at-analysts-stop-making-it-sound-so-simple"},"modified":"2024-07-19T07:31:32","modified_gmt":"2024-07-19T07:31:32","slug":"dota-2-legend-loda-takes-swipe-at-analysts-stop-making-it-sound-so-simple","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/dota-2-legend-loda-takes-swipe-at-analysts-stop-making-it-sound-so-simple","title":{"rendered":"Dota 2 legend Loda takes swipe at analysts: &#8220;Stop making it sound so simple&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jonathan &#8220;Loda&#8221; Berg is a legend of the Dota 2 scene, and he&rsquo;s no stranger to voicing his opinions. In his latest series of tweets, he&rsquo;s taken a swipe at analysts for being too simple.<\/p>\n<div data-oembed-url=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LodaBerg\/status\/1294360982131793922\">\n<blockquote align=\"center\" class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<div id=\"traffective-ad-Content_1_663046\" style=\"display: none;\" class=\"Content_1\"><\/div>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">I&#8217;m so tired of listening to analysts using their own pub experiences to explain pro dota2<\/p>\n<p>Just because you know that A -&gt; B in pub, it doesn&#8217;t automatically translate into pro games. It does in some cases, but there are levels upon levels of meta. Stop making it sound so simple<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Jonathan Berg (@LodaBerg) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LodaBerg\/status\/1294360982131793922?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 14, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async=\"\" charset=\"utf-8\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\"><\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>&ldquo;I&rsquo;m so tired of listening to analysts using their own pub experiences to explain pro dota2,&#8221; said Loda. &#8220;Just because you know that A -&gt; B in pub, it doesn&#8217;t automatically translate into pro games.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Loda added that knowledge and experience from public games can sometimes translate to professional games, &#8220;but there are levels upon levels of meta&#8221; that often get overlooked. &#8220;Stop making it sound so simple,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"dota 2 loda\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-cf.ginx.tv\/imgcdn\/XL-B1rfGtK7J9YJM8eHmqTsR8ZTMRIGGFGmEdRTpArc\/rs:fill:0:0:1\/g:ce\/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ2lueC50di91cGxvYWRzL0FuZHIlQzMlQTlzL3Bhc3RlZF9pbWFnZV8wLTQucG5n\" style=\"width: 600px; height: 338px;\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/p>\n<p>To build on his point, Loda urged casters not to explain their opinion as fact. He believes analysts can use their experience to explain important concepts about the game. But he doesn&rsquo;t want them to &ldquo;preach it as the truth&rdquo; and instead thinks they should acknowledge it&rsquo;s an opinion.<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, he received mixed responses, which prompted him to dig deeper. &#8220;There are also enough pro games to go around for you to make comparisons to other pro games rather than your own pubs,&rdquo; he added.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Read more: <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ginx.tv\/en\/dota-2\/rehabilitation-through-esports-prison-dota-tournament-helps-inmates-blow-off-steam\"><b>Rehabilitation through esports? Prison DotA tournament helps inmates blow off steam<\/b><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Mike &#8220;Wickd&#8221; Peterson, a former League of Legends professional who is now a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wickd.gg\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">content creator<\/a>, echoed his sentiment. He believes it&#8217;s something that applies to analysts in League of Legends too.<\/p>\n<div data-oembed-url=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Wickdlol\/status\/1294362629859938305?s=20\">\n<blockquote align=\"center\" class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Liked and Retweeted this one since your words is something that the League Of Legends community also needs to hear.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Wickd (@Wickdlol) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Wickdlol\/status\/1294362629859938305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 14, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async=\"\" charset=\"utf-8\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\"><\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Loda responded, expressing his belief that analysts often inflate their knowledge. &#8220;Perhaps there was a point when they were up to date with everything,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But then they didn&#8217;t keep doing that homework, but still keep expressing themselves as they do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This prompted Gabriel &#8220;Lyrical&#8221; Cruz, a popular Dota 2 analyst and caster, to respond. &#8220;Come on man whatcha talking about?&#8221; he said. &#8220;The point of the cast is to take something super complicated that very few people understand and make it relatable\/entertaining.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div data-oembed-url=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LyricalDota\/status\/1294367538957004802?s=20\">\n<blockquote align=\"center\" class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Come on man whatcha talking about? The point of the cast is to take something super complicated that very few people understand and make it relatable\/entertaining. Sometimes the point is to simplify it and then the revelation of the complexity is part of the entertainment.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; LyricalDota (@LyricalDota) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LyricalDota\/status\/1294367538957004802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 14, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async=\"\" charset=\"utf-8\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\"><\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Lyrical&#8217;s point is a valid one, and it correctly sums up the other side of the issue. &#8220;Sometimes the point is to simplify it and then the revelation of the complexity is part of the entertainment,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>\n<span style=\"font-size:11pt; font-variant:normal; white-space:pre-wrap\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\"><span style=\"font-style:normal\"><span style=\"text-decoration:none\"><span style=\"border:none\"><span style=\"display:inline-block\"><span style=\"overflow:hidden\"><span style=\"width:602px\"><span style=\"height:339px\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"gabriel cruz doat 2\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-cf.ginx.tv\/imgcdn\/oYXxZ7oyhWfAh2AbLoHRGYJt--FXuhWjT9z7IemEB9A\/rs:fill:0:0:1\/g:ce\/aHR0cHM6Ly9saDMuZ29vZ2xldXNlcmNvbnRlbnQuY29tL1hSdHc3elo5OWpoQVBseDZvVEE3bnJQOE5GVzVFYjFtaUZHRjNhRzBocXVudWY2X1BoUUw4Yk0wdDFqWVJQbklzb1pnY2VhYWdHeTJRTFF6X1NYaDRobW00QUFVckFwTkZRSzA1MEpBTHAtejc1ejl2SDBMT1VsbXBHc0dNUnZHYUdjUktiMGo\" style=\"width: 600px; height: 338px;\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Lyrical acknowledged that casters don&#8217;t always get it right. But he believes it&#8217;s better to be entertaining than accurate and bland, which makes sense. After all, most spectators aren&rsquo;t professionals either.<\/p>\n<div data-oembed-url=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LyricalDota\/status\/1294367618996899840?s=20\">\n<blockquote align=\"center\" class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">I&#8217;m not saying casters dont make mistakes but sometimes it&#8217;s better to be entertaining than 1000 percent accurate and bland.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; LyricalDota (@LyricalDota) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LyricalDota\/status\/1294367618996899840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 14, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async=\"\" charset=\"utf-8\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\"><\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Loda&rsquo;s opinion matters because he is a legend in the Dota 2 scene. He famously won <a href=\"https:\/\/liquipedia.net\/dota2\/The_International\/2013\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">The International 2013 with Alliance<\/a>, which cemented his place as a legend of the game. After he retired, he became the team&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/thealliance.gg\/about\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">co-owner and head coach<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>However, he&#8217;s known for being very opinionated. This goes all the way back to when he famously called out Clement &#8220;Puppey&#8221; Ivanov and Daniel &#8220;Dendi&#8221; Ishutin for their game-breaking &#8220;fountain hook&rdquo; exploit.<\/p>\n<p style=\"line-height:1.38\"><span style=\"font-size:11pt; font-variant:normal; white-space:pre-wrap\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial\"><span style=\"color:#0e101a\"><span style=\"font-weight:400\"><span style=\"font-style:normal\"><span style=\"text-decoration:none\">However, he&#8217;s known for being very opinionated. This goes all the way back to when he famously called out Clement &#8220;Puppey&#8221; Ivanov and Daniel &#8220;Dendi&#8221; Ishutin for their game-breaking &#8220;fountain hook&rdquo; exploit.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div data-oembed-url=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=d6H-HEpnlk8\">\n<div style=\"left: 0; width: 100%; height: 0; position: relative; padding-bottom: 56.25%;\"><iframe allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/d6H-HEpnlk8?rel=0\" style=\"border: 0; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute;\" tabindex=\"-1\" srcdoc=\"&lt;style&gt;*{padding:0;margin:0;overflow:hidden}html,body{height:100%}img,span{position:absolute;width:100%;top:0;bottom:0;margin:auto}span{height:1.5em;text-align:center;font:48px\/1.5 sans-serif;color:white;text-shadow:0 0 0.5em black}&lt;\/style&gt;&lt;a href=https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/d6H-HEpnlk8?autoplay=1&gt;&lt;img src=https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/d6H-HEpnlk8\/hqdefault.jpg alt='YouTube video thumbnail'&gt;&lt;span&gt;&#9654;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/a&gt;\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>It isn&rsquo;t the first time Loda has stirred the pot, and it won&rsquo;t be the last. But the question remains: Should analysts make more of an effort to understand and explain the professional meta? Or should they stick to entertaining and breaking down information in layman&#8217;s terms?<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll see more about the discussion in weeks to come.<\/p>\n<p>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jonathan &#8220;Loda&#8221; Berg is a legend of the Dota 2 scene, and he&rsquo;s no stranger to voicing his opinions. 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